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QUESTION-290: When the continuities bundled in a collective come apart, can several later collectives each be a genuine successor of it in a different respect without numerical identity branching?

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RefinesQUESTION-118 — When a collective reproduces its organization through the replacement of all its members, what must stay causally continuous for the later organization to be the earlier one persisting, and not a similar one produced anew, and when several later collectives each continue it in a different respect, which successor relation, if any, is its persistence?
Cited as “answers” byCLAIM-328 — When the continuities that ordinarily come bundled in a collective (legal franchise, civic role, interpersonal transmission, narrative and place) are separated, several later collectives can each be a genuine successor of the earlier one in a different respect, without any of them, or the earlier collective, having branched in numerical identity

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The question

QUESTION-118 asks how persistence is settled when several later collectives each continue an earlier one in a different respect. Before that comes whether such plural succession is possible at all without numerical identity branching. This question asks that.

The answer

CLAIM-328, Active, answers yes, as an existence claim grounded on CASE-105. When a collective’s franchise, civic role, interpersonal transmission, and narrative and place come apart, as at the Senators’ relocation, several later collectives each succeed it in one respect: the Twins by the league’s legal succession, the expansion Senators by the city’s place in the league, the 2005 Nationals by claim to the city’s history. These are plural successor relations. None of them, and not the earlier collective, has to branch in numerical identity.

It rests on one documented case, with no data on how supporters divided. Which successor relation, if any, is the earlier collective persisting, and what criterion decides it, remain QUESTION-118’s.

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