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TERM-045: self, and which sense

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Version7
Tagsself
Used byCLAIM-153 — Failure of a self to hold together across contexts is a monodromy around a cycle of contexts: any two locally consistent contexts glue, and the minimal model of the obstruction needs three, CLAIM-155 — Willed agency is a kind between agency and selfhood: a control system whose behaviour is governed by a will-organization over several regimes is more than an agent and closer to a self, in the self-governing sense, without thereby being a subject, CLAIM-161 — A system persists as the same self over an interval when a coherence measure is approximately conserved along its own trajectory, not merely matched by some map between its states, CLAIM-165 — A combined form constituted by mutual entrainment is not thereby a self in the subject sense: two dancers in phase are one coordination, an autonomous process, and still two subjects, CLAIM-166 — A lower-level collective within the composite person, such as the gut microbiome, can at times drive higher-level behaviour and even experience: the routes exist and the effects are causal in rodents, while the human evidence is modest, CLAIM-157 — Relative to a stated target, a combined form is one system while its joint dynamics are nearly decomposable with the form as a block whose gap beats the Occam factor, and it lasts as long as that block persists; the unit is the gap-isolated block, not any member, CLAIM-167 — One-way drive rightly passes the threshold criterion: a metronome and its musician, or a nerve and its muscle, form one system relative to a target that needs both, and the direction of coupling gives the system's internal architecture, not its membership, CLAIM-169 — On Ainslie's account the population of interests is produced by desynchronized valuation, not given by a fixed architecture: an agent is many interests over a choice only as far as its valuations of that choice cross within the choice's horizon, CLAIM-172 — Mutual entrainment is a sufficient mark of a combined form, and marks it as one of peers: when each side adjusts the other's timing the pair carries a collective variable neither has alone; one-way drive also makes a combined form, with a hierarchical architecture, CLAIM-175 — A partner-dancing couple, while dancing, is one combined cognitive form on the extended-mind thesis's own terms, more clearly than Otto and his notebook, and merits a name of its own, CLAIM-198 — Preference reversal is not yet disunity: interests that govern a choice at disjoint times glue, and a self is divided over a choice only on an overlap, which the agent's prediction of its own later valuation creates, CLAIM-196 — A person's roles in contexts that do not meet cannot contradict one another: role conflict needs an overlap, which segregating audiences prevents and collapsed contexts create, CLAIM-284 — A self, in the self-governing sense, is a historically continuous organization of processes that takes part in governing the conditions of its own persistence, differentiation and transformation, not merely one that persists, CLAIM-317 — Self-presentations that differ by audience do no harm while the audiences are kept apart; people keep them apart and script the occasions where they must meet, and broadcast and networked media bring them together unchosen, which is when the presentations collide, CLAIM-355 — In a distributed agent the binding of appraisal, readiness and governance into one response can be real while the single owner a self-model or collective self-description attributes it to is a representational construction, not a further entity; the illusion, where there is one, is in the attribution and belongs to whichever system adopts the representation, and this deflates the self without settling whether experience is real, CLAIM-417 — What the record explained by "self" in its dispositional, persisting, self-governing and integrated senses is better explained by organizational perspectives, with a perspective, its carriers, its lineage and its representations kept apart; the subject sense stays a separate question, and narrative, presented and modeled selves involve representations that may describe a perspective, attribute it to a bearer or construct an owner, none of them the perspective itself
ComplementsTERM-075 — attributed self, and which sense: held, imagined, imagined audience or appropriated
Cited as “uses” byCLAIM-287 — What persists when a self persists through inactivity is the capacity to reinstate an organization, not its continuous running, and continuity of that kind can branch and merge, so it is not an identity relation, CLAIM-485 — In the self-governing sense, what endogenous governance adds over a behaviourally equivalent system with an external scheduler is not that it allocates authority among its own processes but that it can revise its own governing standards when they break down

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Definition

“Self” in this record means one of the following, and a claim should say which:

  1. Subject. Being a subject, with a point of view or experience that is its own. This is ADR-024’s self, and the sense the dancers objection keeps (CLAIM-165).
  2. Dispositional, or extended. What a cognitive agent is, including its standing beliefs and coupled resources. This is Clark & Chalmers’ extended self (NOTE-180).
  3. Persisting. Being the same over time. Coherence conserved along the system’s own dynamics (CLAIM-161), or unity across contexts (CLAIM-153).
  4. Narrative. The unity of a life as a story (ADR-024’s narrative-unity).
  5. Self-governing. Governing oneself by one’s own standards (ADR-024’s self-governance). A willed agent (TERM-048) has something like this without needing sense 1 (CLAIM-155).
  6. Integrated. Many control systems acting as one (ADR-024’s behavioral-integration). This is the sense of “the self as a multi-agent system” and of Ainslie’s population of interests that is “just the resultant” (CLAIM-169). It is numbered last because it was added in version 2.
  7. Presented. The self a person gives to others: the presentations made to each audience, and whether they cohere where audiences meet. This is the self of impression management, Goffman’s sense as boyd uses it (LIT-1001), and of MoM’s roles as sections over family, professional and social contexts (CLAIM-196). It is audience-relative and synchronic. It differs from 3, which is sameness over time, and from 4, which is a life’s story told whole. A person can have it divided while 1 and 6 are intact. Added in version 3.

What it is not

  • Not one property with several aspects. The senses come apart. A firm may have 5 without 1. A dreamer may have 1 without 5. Otto’s notebook bears on 2 only. A speaker whose audiences are brought together may find 7 divided with nothing else changed (CASE-052).
  • Not “person” (ADR-024’s personhood).

Note of 2026-10-18: a missing “modeled” sense

A26 of the exchange of 2026-10-17 argued for “a selective fictionalism about the substantial ego”: what is fictional is “the imagined substantial owner, not the organized agent”. The self that argument turns on is in none of the seven senses. It is the self as the content of a self-model, which the system does not recognise as a model: Metzinger’s transparent self-model (THEORY-064) and Dennett’s centre of narrative gravity (THEORY-691). Call it “modeled”. It differs from 4, narrative, in being a representation the system uses in governing itself rather than the unity of a life told whole, and from 1, subject, in that a claim about it says nothing about whether there is experience.

CLAIM-355, filed from that exchange, is stated in senses 1 and 6 and names the modeled sense in its body. Adding an eighth sense is a new version of this term by its own rule. It is flagged here and not done.

Note of 2026-10-22: the senses as perspectives

At U31 of the exchange “Graph Learning Applications” the owner proposed that the record’s selves are “better described as ‘organizational perspectives’” (CLAIM-417, Proposed). A31 read this term’s seven senses as evidence that “there probably isn’t one unified phenomenon waiting for a single theory of selfhood”, and translated all but one:

  • 2, dispositional or extended: a perspective’s repertoire and coupled resources;
  • 3, persisting: the persistence of a perspective or of its carrier, in TERM-071’s senses;
  • 5, self-governing: reflexive governance of a perspective (CLAIM-424);
  • 6, integrated: the organization of a perspective (TERM-072, sense 1);
  • 4, 7 and the “modeled” sense of the note of 2026-10-18: representations of a perspective (TERM-072, sense 2).

Sense 1 is left alone: “A self is one subject” is “A separate question”. The senses are unchanged. If the claim is adopted, a claim using senses 2, 3, 5 or 6 should say which perspective object it means instead.

The exchange also filed the case that separates the senses most cleanly in one person: Clive Wearing (CASE-137) keeps substantial skilled competence and short-horizon organization (senses 2 and 6) through a profound loss of autobiographical memory and narrative continuity (sense 4). The case does not show a failure of sense 3, persistence, in general. It shows why persistence must not be identified with remembered continuity, which is the “What it is not” bullet, “The senses come apart”, in a documented person. (Corrected the same day, after a review the owner relayed: the first version of this note had sense 3 failing, “as remembered continuity”, which is the conflation the case should prevent.)

Note of 2026-10-22: selves held by others

All seven senses here are held or given by the person; sense 7, the presented self, is the self a person gives to others. CLAIM-415 needed the other direction: what others take a person to be, what the person takes them to take them to be, and who the person takes “them” to be. Those are filed apart, as TERM-075, and not as an eighth sense here, because they are not selves the person has. They become part of the self the person takes themselves to be only when appropriated (TERM-075, sense 4), and can then become content of sense 4, the narrative self, and sense 7, the presented self; unappropriated, they can still shape what the person does (CASE-142).

Note of 2026-11-01: the “modeled” sense needs a division

The note of 2026-10-18 flagged a “modeled” sense, the self as the content of a self-model the system does not recognise as a model (THEORY-064). It did not add it. Metzinger’s later work, read on 2026-11-01, shows that any such sense would itself need two sub-senses:

  • A model of a knowing self. The “epistemic agent model”, the layer of the self-model that represents a self that attends, thinks and knows. Metzinger 2024 (LIT-1943, NOTE-1499, pp. 302, 306): “a subject is an epistemic agent model that functions as the unit of identification”. This is the self that ego dissolution removes.
  • A model of the system that is not a model of a self. Minimal phenomenal experience is “non-egoic self-modelling” (Metzinger 2020, LIT-1946, NOTE-1498, p. 36). It is “a highest-level but nonegoic self-model” of the organism’s own epistemic openness (2024, p. 477). Its epistemic subject “simply is the organism or conscious system as a whole” (2020, p. 27).

The second is a self-model in the sense of a model the system has of itself, with no self in senses 1–7 as its content. A claim that says experience “needs no self-model” should say which it means (THEORY-063; THEORY-1299). The senses are unchanged, and adding the modeled sense remains a new version of this term by its own rule. No status, title or warrant changes.

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