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QUESTION-002: What survives when an utterance is translated, retold or rendered in another medium?

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StatusOpen
Tagsphilosophy-of-language, linguistics
Linepragmatic-transport
Refined byQUESTION-021 — Is there a frame-independent communicative act that translations approximate, or is the act's identity constituted by a family of frame-relative realizations?, QUESTION-023 — Can the opacity of insider vocabulary be a preservation target in its own right?, QUESTION-005 — How can corresponding communicative environments and responses be operationalized without building the preferred notion of fidelity into the measurement procedure?, QUESTION-017 — Where the additive bound fails, what bound on accumulated drift holds when distortion is directed and need not satisfy the triangle inequality?, QUESTION-014 — Does a stable speaker footing measurably reduce pragmatic drift relative to shifting frames, even when both drift lexically?, QUESTION-016 — Under what conditions does iterated reconstruction preserve, or progressively destroy, task-relative sufficiency?, QUESTION-020 — Can improving the interpreter substitute for information transmitted in the utterance, and at what rate–distortion trade-off?, QUESTION-012 — When does reconstruction through an intermediate image preserve or degrade observational structure relative to direct text-to-text reconstruction?, QUESTION-003 — For a family of communicative decisions, what is the minimum information rate at which a translation preserves decision performance within a tolerance?, QUESTION-006 — Which pragmatic observables are conserved, exactly or within a bounded defect, by actual reconstruction kernels, and how does that depend on frame, genre and adaptation?, QUESTION-013 — Under iterated transport, when do observational, structural and decision distortion converge together, diverge, or evolve independently?, QUESTION-018 — When a generator receives several conditions, what determines whether it preserves their conjunction and relational bindings?, QUESTION-022 — Beyond restriction-compatible kernels and kernels induced by one global kernel, which stochastic transports carry compatible empirical models to compatible ones and preserve global extendability: which conditions are necessary, and what does a transport that changes the cover do?, QUESTION-029 — What constitutes the identity of a relationally organized communicative act, how can it be recognized apart from any one representation, and under which transformations does it persist?, QUESTION-075 — Which tasks and which receivers fix the human criterion against which a measure of communicative fidelity is validated?
Answered byCLAIM-115 — What survives translation is the set of communicative distinctions and relations a receiving system can still reconstruct and act upon, not the wording or the proposition, CLAIM-133 — Communicative identity is relational continuity under admissible transformation: translation transports relationally organized observational structure, correspondence fixes what can be compared, admissibility which transformations count, and fidelity which communicatively consequential distinctions remain recoverable, CLAIM-204 — A communicative kind's identity is grounded in its relational organization, for which competent participants' uptake is the standard; statistical methods recover aspects of it from restricted observations; translation transports it; and what persists is what the receivers can still recover, of which the analyst can certify the independently identifiable part, CLAIM-220 — For a named population of receivers and a stated family of tasks, what survives a translation, retelling or rendering is the set of task-relevant communicative distinctions those receivers can still recover from it, and measured preservation of the pragmatic observables predicts that recovery better than preservation of the wording or of the proposition, with or without its force
BearingCLAIM-147 — A trope is a family of observational profiles joined by admissible transformations around a core of preserved relations, so trope instances can separate structural preservation from pragmatic preservation, CLAIM-202 — What the line adds to functional and relevance-theoretic accounts of translation is measured structure beyond a static pragmatic profile: the context-indexed profile, its response to later framings and its decision relevance predict receivers' recovery beyond the similarity of static stance and footing ratings
Cited as “answers” byCLAIM-139 — A communicative kind's identity is grounded in its relational organization rather than in any expression or encoding; statistical methods recover aspects of that organization from restricted observations, translation transports it, and fidelity is which independently identifiable, decision-relevant relational distinctions persist

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Open. The manuscript’s answer is CLAIM-115. What would count as an answer here is a specification of the preserved object that can be measured on real translations, retellings and cross-modal renderings, and that predicts human judgements of communicative fidelity better than semantic similarity does.

The record holds a measured case: THEORY-226 (Abdulhai et al., LIT-997). LLM revisions of student essays keep topic and genre and move further in sentence-embedding space than the students’ own revisions, in a direction shared across essays, models and prompts. It does not answer the question: its measure is the embedding similarity an answer must beat, and no fidelity judgements were collected.

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